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Does Jay-Z hate Jesus?

I must be honest, I heard this song and knew the lyrics months ago, but I kind of dismissed them.  I must give props to my brother in the Lord, he didn’t just let the issue linger.  He got right to it and made a passionate defense as to why Jay-Z was wrong.  I had an argument in my mind as to why it really wasn’t that big of a deal until he said something about “taking the glory from Jesus about what he chiefly came to do — which was save.”  He is right — to dismiss the fact that Jesus saves is to take the glory away from Jesus.  In fact, in the book of John, the crucifixion is referred to as his glorification.  (e.g. John 7:39, John 17:1). Jesus goes to the cross in order to atone for the sins of the world, so that anybody who would believe in his work on the cross would be saved.  He is the one and only Savior.  To say or imply otherwise would be to take the credit and glory that is due Him. What do you think?

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  1. Zach N.
    November 24, 2009 at 12:59 pm | #1

    To answer the question posed in your blog title: Yes.

    Jay Z hates Jesus no more than I hated Jesus before I was saved, (or rather before I came into the realization of my salvation) no more than anyone else. My lifestyle, and not just speech, laid a heavier foundation for the hate I had for Jesus than anything Jay could ever create in all of his albums, no matter how black his may be.

    A couple of friends and I listened to this song back when the album came out and heard the lyrics. Off top we accepted that it was more satanic revelry, but this accepted truth came only because we were 1) saved and 2) had already read SO MUCH about his free-mason associations and re-listened to so many of his older songs which carried the same demonic connotations.

    Honestly, I may be a bit off on this and by God’s grace I can accept if I am, but I have problems with the idea of “stealing” glory from Jesus. From my very admittedly very limited understanding theologically, I am not sure that that is very sound. Jesus, being sovereign, is glorified in everything eventually, good and bad. We can see that most specifically in Saul of Tarsus who became Paul. I don’t believe that because Jay Z is blaspheming now Jesus will not be glorified. We don’t know, Jay Z may turn into a beast for Christ, can we say that it is impossible? Regardless, the modern say Simon must answer to Christ upon death or when Christ returns in “great glory” (Luke 21:27).

    All in all, I appreciate the video. The man’s right in addressing the blatant blasphemy on a forum where many can see it. The focus on “stealing glory” really just bothered me.

    • November 24, 2009 at 1:13 pm | #2

      (1) Your point on sovereignty — When you get a chance study Romans 9 and Romans 10 in connection with each other. Romans 9 refers to God being sovereign and completely in control. Romans 10 states that man has a responsibility to confess with their mouth and believe with their heart. There is a dynamic tension between God being completely sovereign over man’s affairs and man having to be responsible for the actions that he has taken. Those two truths stand in the bible in so many places (e.g. Acts 2:23), that they must be taken as true even if our finite minds cannot reconcile how the two could exist. Only God can answer how he can be completely in control, yet still hold humans responsible for their actions.

      That being said:

      (2) God does hold man responsible for taking credit that belongs to him and him alone. See the horrible and public death that Herod went through because he did not give God the glory. Acts 12:20-25. I think the pastor made a valid point that should hit home with all of us. Give God the glory due his name!

  2. November 27, 2009 at 4:16 pm | #3

    can we as mere humans take glory from God..?
    if the most exemplary moment of the glory of the sovereign justice of God was the cross on Calvary…then even when we try and take the glory from God He is most glorified. God is most glorified through (His) suffering and although the pious pharisees (we + jay-z) tried to mock & steal His glory opposing His deity (ability to save) His glory shined all the more. I believe God’s glory is constant and whether we exalt His name or not He is still God, but as we see in Romans 1 their are repercussions; dire repercussions. So what do I think..I believe that God’s glory is going to shine where jay-z is going to dim. take the Beatles, the Titanic, Herod, Marlyn Monroe, and an assortment of people who spoke against the glory of God for example and look at their downfall. “vengeance is mine says the Lord”…i think even jay-z said it better than all.

  3. C. M.
    November 27, 2009 at 6:54 pm | #4

    If we give Him glory by worship and living for Him, then I think Jay-Z is definitely taking glory by doing the opposite. But God’s perfect will, will be done…whether you are in (on His side) or out (against Him). The Good News is that He wants you in and He has provided The Way. The bad news is that our (ppl just like Jay-Z) foolishness causes others to follow and stumble, exactly like Pastor Justin said, “don’t be surprised if they stop going to church.”

  4. Blake
    November 29, 2009 at 9:22 pm | #5

    I guess thats why he where’s all black everything!

  5. John Israel
    December 22, 2009 at 1:36 pm | #6

    I think that Jay-Z should be exposed to the public because he’s leading people toward the wrong direction and in my opinion I know that if he’s really selling his soul to the devil, he has a huge price to pay and Iknow he won’t be able to bear it.

  6. ari0701
    December 24, 2009 at 6:04 pm | #7

    lmao this is the funniest thing i’ve ever seen! thank you for the jay-z promotion. you’re doing a fabulous job promoting him.

  7. Jamal Cook
    February 23, 2010 at 11:04 am | #8

    There’s a lot wrong with the way that the Church views Hip-Hop. I think that if you love Hip-Hop, there is a book that is a MUST READ: Jesus and Jigga. For all my fam in Christ, it’s time that we started engaging and not attacking Hip Hop Culture. Check the website: http://www.jesusandjigga.com

    • February 23, 2010 at 12:00 pm | #9

      @jamal cook. Good link. Did you just read my post or did you just skim through it? Lol.

  8. everest brady frm nz
    May 13, 2010 at 4:54 pm | #10

    ea jay zis da bro leave him alone he is realli gangsta hu cares if he hates god i dont he makes good songs for every bodi to enjoy i love him ha hot yu rok da bro j z hoolah ad yur gal everest xxx

  9. Anetria
    August 5, 2010 at 10:04 am | #11

    Love and Hate will never be friends. If anything be mindful of the things you see/hear Jesus and Jigga the two can never be compared so why contrast there difference’s or likes. Jigga did not die on the cross for my sins, Jesus DID. Enough said!

    • January 1, 2013 at 4:01 pm | #12

      What about loving the sinner, but hating the sin?

  10. Septi
    August 6, 2010 at 3:20 pm | #13

    U CANNOT TAKE GODS GLORY.

  11. Winnie Roberts
    August 27, 2010 at 4:42 am | #14

    @Jamal Cook.! Im sorry but how can you stand for Hip hop.
    This is a culture a belief. The founding fathers even say so. Like Afica
    Bambaata and KRS1. This is not giving glory to God. Hip Hop is not a
    Culture that Promotes Christ. They believe that we ourselves are the gods and goddesses. How can we as christians believe that when Jesus says that he is the only way the truth and the life, He is the Only GOD!!!…We cant continue with the things of the world, Jesus said to be set apart, Do not conform to the things of this world but be transformed by the renewing of the mind.! We cant serve two masters.

    • Ryan
      October 10, 2012 at 5:46 pm | #15

      you are correct.

  12. Ryan
    October 10, 2012 at 5:44 pm | #16

    AMEN brother! but jz doesn’t have anyone working for him who will call hijm out. all of those music guys worship satin. 99percent. honestly.they belive in God which is sad just choose to worship satin. thats diff then what st paul even did. God will let him walk into hell. he’s not ignorant. he’s choosing. he’s pathedic.

  13. January 1, 2013 at 4:02 pm | #17

    Love the sinner hate the sin?

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